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Series Three

Series 3, Episode 3

Declan and Nick join Lucie to discuss Hamlet, including their experiences of staging the play as a ballet for the Bolshoi, the difference between what we say and what we do, and Hamlet’s greatest fear: non-existence.

Series 3, Episode 2
Twelfth Night

This week, Declan, Nick and Lucie discuss Twelfth Night, Shakespeare’s great tale of love, loss, and self-deception.

Series 3, Episode 1

To kick off Series 3, Declan and Nick join Lucie Dawkins to discuss Macbeth, a play that continues to reveal new things to us, including the universal problems of loneliness, gratitude, and the danger of trying to solve life’s great mysteries.

Series Two

Series 2, Episode 8

Declan, Nick and Lucie discuss Shakespeare’s ‘badly behaved’ play Cymbeline. They chat about empathy, the idea of ‘realism’, inventing one’s own exercises…

Series 2, Episode 7
Boris Godunov

We head to Russia to discuss Pushkin’s great lyrical masterpiece Boris Godunov, a compelling exposé of the seductive appeal of power…

Series 2, Episode 6
The Changeling

Declan, Nick and Lucie deep dive into The Changeling, a bloody Jacobean tragedy filled with lunatics, ghosts, horror, sex and obsession…

Series 2, Episode 5
The Tempest

How does theatre make us less alone? What is the role that the audience has to play in the act of art? What does Shakespeare have to teach us about humanity and forgiveness…

Series 2, Episode 4
As You Like It
“If it’s not painful, it ain’t love!”
This week, Declan and Nick discuss Shakespeare’s As You Like It, paying special attention to their landmark 1991 production starring Adrian Lester as Rosalind…

Series 2, Episode 3
Ubu Roi

Blood, sex, tyranny, and sausages! Declan and Nick join Lucie to discuss Ubu Roi, Alfred Jarry’s gruesome and raucous 1896 satire.

Series 2, Episode 2
Tis Pity She’s A Whore

Tis Pity She’s a Whore is a vivid and violent Jacobean tragedy about a brother and sister’s passionate descent into hell. It is also the first production Declan and Nick ever worked on together…

Series 2, Episode 1
The Winter’s Tale

Declan and Nick discuss Shakespeare’s The Winter’s Tale, a play in which unity of time, place and action are hurled aside as we range across Europe…

Series One

Series 1, Episode 10

Like the delicious Italian meal made from the remainders of other pasta, in this episode we have assembled the tastiest bonus offcuts from the interviews for Season One…

Series 1, Episode 9
Character and Process

In this episode, Declan Donnellan talks about motive, and ways of examining why people in real life and characters in plays do what they do…

Series 1, Episode 8
Encountering the Predicament

Declan and Nick talk about the predicament of being a human, and how that helps us to think about plays. They consider cats, Breaking Bad, Shakespeare, Beckett, cheese trolleys on the Titanic…

Series 1, Episode 7
Design Deep Dive

Co-Artistic Director Nick Ormerod joins Lucie to dive into the world of theatre design, discussing how design can be informed by the space and the actors…

Series 1, Episode 6
Why We Do What We Do

In this episode, Declan Donnellan talks about motive, and ways of examining why people in real life and characters in plays do what they do. He talks about dread as a motor …

Series 1, Episode 5
Words Grown False

Declan and Nick talk about how words can behave treacherously, and explore what this means with staging the great plays. With Fawlty Towers, detective novels, Three Sisters, Othello all in the mix…

Series 1, Episode 4
Scenes and Sandcastles

In this episode, Declan and Nick discuss an important idea in their work: ‘Thresholds’. They share with us lessons they have learned about the theatre from holidays in Margate, King Kong, and newborn babies…

Series 1, Episode 3
Into the Woods

In this episode, Declan and Nick talk about the history of their collaboration, and the way they work together as director and designer. They map 40 years of a shared creative life…

Series 1, Episode 2
Space and Shakespeare

What do lobsters, Shakespeare, the room next door, and our lockdown all have in common? They all have something to tell us about space and the theatre…

Series 1, Episode 1
Thoughts from Inside Quarantine

In this first episode, Cheek by Jowl’s Artistic Director Declan Donnellan talks to Lucie Dawkins about his thoughts on life, quarantine, making theatre, the brain and Macbeth…

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